Off Sides College Football Top 25

[00:00:00] Speaker A: It. Hey, good evening, everyone. Welcome to the Trim Radio Network. And welcome to Offsides College Football's Top 25 +5. And you have John, Kalyn, and Michael. And John is the host. Kaylin is the host. I am just the third person that starts us off. Anyway, we got a lot to talk about tonight, so here we are. We've all been waiting for this all summer long. And we are here right now, ready to rock and roll with, guess what, our favorite time of year? College football. Because we just couldn't wait long enough. And anyway, we are ready to start. John, you've got all kinds of stuff we're gonna start off with, man. Let's start off with the top 25. [00:01:24] Speaker B: All right. [00:01:27] Speaker A: So let's start off with that. Let's go with that. And we have somebody ringing Diesel Fire. We have a dog in here. He's usually with me all the time. And he is just, he's barking. He's excited for College football's top 25, too. That's why he's barking. So, so anyway, guys, you good? Good job. Now you can have a reason. You can see grandpa's handling about four different things, which is really cool. I got the grandson who wants to have, who wants to have a Reese's Cup. He is eating his dinner first because we had to negotiate with him, and now he's going for his Reese's Cup. It's amazing how that works. And then we had somebody that just came to the doorbell, so. So anyway, John, who you have in the college top 25? What is your top 25? And let's talk about it starting with. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Number 25, the South Carolina Gamecocks. [00:02:42] Speaker A: What do you think? Yeah, I think they're a little better than that. [00:02:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I do, too. [00:02:49] Speaker A: I, I, I, I think that people are underestimating them. They have Kellen, come on in. I, I think that people are underestimating them a little bit. And we have a team that Lenora Sellers is just, he's a, he's a playmaker, and he's big, and he's hard to bring down. He's like a running back, quarterback, you know, all in one. And they have big size now on that offensive line. The average size of that offensive line, I believe, is right around 305 to 320. They're big. Yeah, yeah. And pretty good defense. They've got decent receivers. I think they're going to surprise a lot of people in the SEC. So I haven't, you know, even though they're top 25, number 25. I see them more as a 15. [00:03:54] Speaker B: But they were banged up last year. [00:03:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:03:58] Speaker B: This year, I don't think they'll be able to. I think they'll be able to compete in the SEC with Georgia and Alabama. [00:04:10] Speaker A: Well, they were close to Alabama last year, like, this far away. It was like one play and it was this far away. And they almost had him beat. They should have had him beat. Absolutely. All right. Number 24, the Louisville Cardinals. Yeah, Louisville's always been up there. You know, a lot of people like to write the ACC off, but then again, Clemson lost the first game, and we thought for sure their goose was cooked. They were done. Because Georgia just went down there and kind of. They didn't beat him up. They mugged him. You know, they mugged them pretty good. And when I walked out of there, I just said, dabo's in trouble, you know, but he was able to write the ship. And Clay Kubnick, it's. He is that guy. You give him a little time. He has a good quarterback. Club Nick. Yeah, Club Nick. However you pronounce his name, Club Nick. Excuse me, but it is. I. I think that. I think they could be the top runner in the ACC this year. I think they're going to the playoffs. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Yeah. So. So they. They end up playing Miami, Clemson and smu, so, you know, they got the top end of the conference. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Yes, yes. So. [00:05:48] Speaker B: And their weekly opponent, Eastern Kentucky. That's really not a good test. [00:05:58] Speaker A: You don't know with Eastern Kentucky, though. They've slayed a few giants, you know, but will they slay them? No, I think that what you saw last year with Georgia doing to Clemson. You're going to see Clemson doing to Eastern Kentucky. If not, well, then the ACC is in. They're in shambles. [00:06:25] Speaker B: They have a lot of work. Uphill battles. [00:06:28] Speaker A: They do. [00:06:29] Speaker B: They're not participating in nil. [00:06:34] Speaker A: They are. [00:06:35] Speaker B: They are not. [00:06:36] Speaker A: Oh, boy. Say that again, John. [00:06:44] Speaker B: ACC is not participating in nil. [00:06:47] Speaker C: Oh, boy. [00:06:49] Speaker A: Yeah. That's a big battle to overcome uphill. You know, everyone else is handing out cash and they're not. So that is. Yeah, that's. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that'll. That'll be. It's. I. With North Carolina's new coach that we know is the old coach up there of New England. Yeah. Bill's gonna be handing cash out, you know. Yeah. Yeah. You want this? What you want. You know, he's gonna hand it out now, so that'll be interesting. All right. Number 23. [00:07:37] Speaker B: TCU. They had a starting quarterback returning. Hoover. [00:07:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:50] Speaker B: But I mean, I. [00:07:52] Speaker C: It's hard to put TCU in the top 25 this year. It is. And simply because you have Kansas State, you've got Iowa State, you've got Texas Tech, you've got Oklahoma or not even Oklahoma anymore. It's Oklahoma State. [00:08:05] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:08:06] Speaker C: Oklahoma State. [00:08:08] Speaker A: Too many. [00:08:10] Speaker C: Arizona State. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Baylor. [00:08:12] Speaker C: Yeah, Baylor. Boys is Boise. [00:08:14] Speaker A: No, Boise's not in the Big 12. Who are they with now? Boise is not Big 12. Are they, John? Are they Big 12? Was it not SN. [00:08:29] Speaker C: Mountain West Boys? [00:08:30] Speaker A: Mountain west boys is Mountain west because. What is it? Not smu, but the other one. I mean, so that'll be. That'll be very interesting. I don't see them as a top 25 team. Yeah. [00:08:46] Speaker C: Even though much of a gauntlet to get through. [00:08:49] Speaker A: Yeah, they've got some. Some super contenders there, so that'll be interesting. What's your take? What do you think? You think they're top 25? [00:08:58] Speaker B: They have nine returning star. [00:09:05] Speaker A: That's pretty good. Defense or offense? [00:09:08] Speaker B: Five. Five on defense, four on offense. [00:09:14] Speaker C: Yeah, they're key playmakers. [00:09:16] Speaker A: Yeah. If it's defense and they can hold their own. Yeah. Then it may be. So we'll. We'll see. Number 20, number 22. [00:09:28] Speaker B: Number 12. The Iowa Hawkeyes. [00:09:33] Speaker A: I was. Got that good defense. They're. [00:09:36] Speaker C: They're a lot of. They got a lot of players coming back this year and they actually found a quarterback. [00:09:41] Speaker A: Who do they have? [00:09:43] Speaker C: Gosh, he's a. I think he's a transfer in. But I was just seeing it posted on up one of the forums. [00:09:50] Speaker A: Who's the, who's the quarterback at Iowa? [00:09:53] Speaker B: I don't, I don't have it written down right now. Five on offense and five on defense coming back. [00:10:01] Speaker A: Yeah. And their defense is sound. Their defense every year has been sound. It's kept them in games. They actually played Iowa State really, really well. [00:10:11] Speaker B: They're the C plus team of the Big Ten. [00:10:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that. I do. I like that too. They're close to the C plus plus, but they're the C plus so. [00:10:34] Speaker B: And for instance, this is his 25th year. [00:10:38] Speaker A: Yeah, he's been there a long time. [00:10:40] Speaker B: He's been there. He's been a head coach team in the ncaa. [00:10:51] Speaker A: Yeah, he's. He's been there the longest, I believe. [00:10:54] Speaker B: Around Noah and Abraham. [00:11:04] Speaker A: He was the, the third child of. Of Isaac, I believe, you know, Jacob Esau and then there's friends. He's been there, you know. [00:11:17] Speaker B: Oh, he's, you know, 104 and 24 all time. He Lost his, Lost his share of games. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. This. This will probably be the last year for him. So we'll. We'll have, we'll have to wait and see and, you know, go from there. I. Let's go on down. Number 21, Arizona State. Yeah. Big hit. When you lose, scatter. [00:11:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Bring him back. [00:11:54] Speaker A: Yeah. But Scaboo was one of those guys that just. If you didn't have two on him, maybe three. And he always looked like he had a twitch, too, afterwards, like he was working through the concussion while he was playing and still hitting as hard as he could. So, you know, but you couldn't bring him down. And I mean, he's. But they're kind of loaded still. Yeah, I, I could see them. Yeah. I would, I would say Arizona State is probably a top 15 team also. On top of it. They have a good opportunity, Kansas State. They do to win the, the Big 12. [00:12:48] Speaker C: And they really only have Texas Tech, Iowa State. [00:12:53] Speaker A: Iowa State's the trip there. I said, well, yeah, it's Utah. Yeah. There's going to be some tough teams. Who do we have at number 20? [00:13:06] Speaker B: Number 27, Duke Blue Devils. [00:13:09] Speaker A: Duke. [00:13:10] Speaker B: Duke. [00:13:12] Speaker C: They've been on the up and up. [00:13:14] Speaker A: Yeah, but Duke does what Duke does, you know, I mean, they get served their dish. They. Somewhere along the line, they. They're eating at the fine restaurant and they find themselves at the buffet. I don't know why. You know. Yeah. I mean, why. Why enjoy ground chuck when you can have filet mignon? You know, it's. It's one of those deals with them. So. But we'll have to. We'll have to look at them later on in the year and see how. How can I put this? True blue. They are. [00:14:07] Speaker C: I'll tell you what, don't sleep on them. [00:14:09] Speaker A: Yeah. You can't sleep on anybody. [00:14:11] Speaker C: No, I'm just saying don't sleep on them at all. [00:14:14] Speaker A: Okay. All right. [00:14:15] Speaker C: They were last year. They hung right there with Georgia Tech. They were. They took SMU to overtime. They hung right there with Miami until late. [00:14:24] Speaker A: But again, this is where I say you're eating at the fine restaurant. It's a five star. Yeah. [00:14:29] Speaker C: And the next table on everybody else. [00:14:32] Speaker A: Yeah. But then when you're eating there, you find yourself at the buffet instead. Yeah, it's, you know, it's. It's China House. They're a B minus team. You know, They're a B minus minus team. All right, number. Who are we at now? Number 19. [00:14:51] Speaker B: 19. Illinois. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Okay. Illinois is one of those teams that. [00:14:59] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, not like in the sense that they're not deserving. No, they're plenty of deserving. I'm just stating in the sense that this is going to be a long, heavy 10 years. It's going to be a past every 10 years. They're unpredictable. [00:15:10] Speaker A: It's the old Wisconsin coach. [00:15:12] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [00:15:13] Speaker A: So that, that is often there, but. And he's a, he's a good coach. He's. He's not a bad coach. And he is a, he is a good coach. They will be prepared. For who? I don't know. You know, Are they going to get past the Penn States? Are they going to get past. [00:15:45] Speaker B: They don't play Penn State, but they play Duke, Indiana and Ohio State. [00:15:52] Speaker A: Yeah, and Kirk. Yeah, and Kirk Signetti had Indiana. He kind of got blessed with one whole team last year. The flight was good. They landed, they, they played well. They got into the playoffs. But now that the team is pretty much. The starters, I think are pretty much gone. I don't know how many they have coming back. This one, you're supposed to be doing research. Yeah, I mean, they'll hold their own. [00:16:24] Speaker C: You know, I could see them as an 8, 91 team, but Illinois is the same way. I would see them as an 8, 9 win team on the high end. 11 wins. [00:16:33] Speaker A: Are they playoff worthy? No, but possibly. Are they a good bowl game? Game worthy? Yes. [00:16:39] Speaker C: Are they a contender? [00:16:41] Speaker A: No. [00:16:41] Speaker C: Are they playoff possibility? Absolutely. You know, it's, it's one of those takes because I mean, I would even rank Michigan in the same degree. You know, they're coming off of a, what, seven, seven and five, I don't know. Yeah, seven and five season last year. Of course, at the end of the year they caught their stride beating Ohio State and then beating Alabama. But John, did we lose you. [00:17:10] Speaker A: John. [00:17:14] Speaker C: But even before then though, you know, they had an identity crisis in the year. Then they figured it out. What's to expect at this point? [00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:33] Speaker B: Sorry. My old age catch up to me. [00:17:36] Speaker A: Oh, that's okay. I'm dealing. Same thing over here, the old age thing. [00:17:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I just hooked up to the dust yet. [00:17:47] Speaker A: I, I don't, I don't think that they're playoff contention worthy team, but I think that they'll be on up there to win a good bowl game or something. Number 18. [00:17:59] Speaker B: Number 18, Kansas State. [00:18:01] Speaker A: Yeah, they're a team that I, I think is going to be interesting. I could see them right on the outer cusp of the eight to ten season. Eight, ten. I, I can see a nine, ten win. Season and. [00:18:17] Speaker B: But Iowa State, week one, there's a game. [00:18:21] Speaker C: Eight to ten, there's a game. They're opening it up this year, actually. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Yeah. So that, that'll be a game that's. Is that this. [00:18:32] Speaker C: No. [00:18:33] Speaker A: 23Rd. Yeah. Yeah. [00:18:35] Speaker C: Saturday. [00:18:36] Speaker A: This Saturday. Absolutely. Number 17. [00:18:41] Speaker B: The U. [00:18:46] Speaker A: Miami University. [00:18:47] Speaker C: I think it's a little low. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Well, I mean. Okay, so what's his name is there now he has come over from Georgia to there. Yeah. Bennett right back. That's it. Carson back. I don't know. I don't know why I forgot his name. Maybe it was one of the two sisters he was dating. The Cavender twins. I'm not sure. He's a good quarterback, but I think it's going to take more than a quarterback to keep them on track this year. I, I don't. I don't know what you think, but I think so. [00:19:31] Speaker B: They have eight stars coming back and the big game, week one. Notre Dame. [00:19:41] Speaker C: I'm sorry, but I got Notre Dame. [00:19:42] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I, I think that Marcus Freeman is going to be more prepared. Oh, yeah. You know, they have something to prove. Everyone should be scared of Notre Dame because they were so close last year. [00:20:00] Speaker C: They were there. [00:20:01] Speaker A: And I think this year. I think this year is going to be a year that they, they really want to keep taking a step forward. And they're a great chess team. They're putting all, all the pieces on the table in all the right spots. Question is, can they get to Checkmate? You know. [00:20:28] Speaker B: The problem with Miami is they, they end up losing four games a year and they shouldn't lose two. [00:20:36] Speaker A: Right. And I, I don't know how it happens every time. All right. I. I just. I don't know. I think they could be on the bubble, but we'll have to wait and see with Miami. Next up, number 16. [00:21:01] Speaker B: SMU. [00:21:06] Speaker A: Down. They. They. They're a good team. They are a good team. You know, they're not taking any cash at all right now. Did you know that when they came into the conference? [00:21:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:16] Speaker A: No, they couldn't. Yeah, they're still. Eli, get out of there. I think they're still here. Go out there. [00:21:24] Speaker B: That's probably why they are not participating in NIL either. [00:21:31] Speaker A: And they're still under recruitment. [00:21:34] Speaker C: Stipulations, right? [00:21:36] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. So I don't know how long that will go on for, like, for what amount of time. Yeah. [00:21:47] Speaker B: You know where. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Yeah. So it'll be interesting. But they were, they, they were, they were right there. They. It didn't work out quite, quite as well. As what everyone wanted. But I see them right there again this year too. [00:22:04] Speaker B: So they play tcu, Clemson, Miami. Loyal. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Yeah, like I said, they're right there. If, if they can, if they can get past those hurdles. Yeah, they'll be right there. You know what I mean? [00:22:23] Speaker B: So they average lose 3 year old. [00:22:27] Speaker A: Yeah, they're right there. Yep. Next up, number 15 bubble teams. [00:22:36] Speaker B: Boise State. [00:22:40] Speaker A: Boise State. Boise State averages about two losses a year, sometimes just one. That incredible team, well coached. Somehow or another, nobody could play on the blue field real well. It's, I don't know if it's the turf or it's the color, but it throws all the opponents off and nobody's figured it out yet. I'm not sure if it's glow in the dark field. I'm not sure what it is, but they've got some kind of magic over there. [00:23:20] Speaker B: So Boise State has to travel to south. [00:23:27] Speaker A: This is true. But I still think they're a team to be. They could very well be in the playoffs again. Number 14, Indiana. No, no. How do we say that, John? No, you are, you're a C, C plus team. You had an A minus season last year. A minus. Minus. But I don't see you back in the playoffs. [00:24:12] Speaker B: No, believe it or not, they have the 13th most difficult schedule and, and. [00:24:20] Speaker A: That'S going to be a problem. Yep. [00:24:24] Speaker C: I want to see how they compete. [00:24:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:26] Speaker B: So they, they, they, they play Illinois, Iowa, Oregon and Penn State. [00:24:36] Speaker A: Two of those are a loss right away. Yeah, Penn State will roll them. Oregon will roll them. I, I don't see them getting past those two games. That might be Iowa. Yeah. And Iowa and Illinois is a, they're a toss up. [00:24:57] Speaker C: They're a third place, fourth place, fifth place team. [00:24:59] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, I, I, is that for the old brown jug? I'm not sure what. Or is that Minnesota? [00:25:13] Speaker C: Minnesota and Ohio State is for the jug. [00:25:15] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. It's Minnesota and. [00:25:17] Speaker C: Oh, you're talking about. There's so many. [00:25:21] Speaker A: Yeah, there's so many. We have. Yeah, yeah, there you go. [00:25:28] Speaker C: And then you have the turtle early buck trophy. The. Oh man, there's another one. That's pretty cool. Which one is it? There's the jug. [00:25:40] Speaker A: Who's the drug? [00:25:40] Speaker C: It's Minnesota. [00:25:41] Speaker A: I, I know it is. I'm gonna go to number 13. [00:25:49] Speaker B: Number 13. Thompson. [00:25:52] Speaker A: Clemson. [00:25:54] Speaker C: That's a good place. [00:25:56] Speaker B: They have, believe it or not, they have 16 stars back. [00:26:03] Speaker C: But can they, can they fulfill. That's gonna be the real key. You know, Cade Klubnick had big, big Shoes to fill. And his first showing was terrible. We'll call it what it is. His second showing looked better, but he still had glimpses of errors. So I'm really looking forward to seeing him this year. What you got for number 12? [00:26:34] Speaker B: Number 12. That's. That's. This is my bubble line. 12. LSU. [00:26:42] Speaker C: I like that. [00:26:44] Speaker B: And they play Clemson week one. [00:26:46] Speaker A: Yep. [00:26:47] Speaker B: And I got Clemson because coach Kelly cannot win a big game. [00:26:54] Speaker A: Nope. [00:26:55] Speaker C: But where's it at? [00:26:57] Speaker B: Clemson. [00:26:59] Speaker C: Clemson. [00:27:01] Speaker A: Yep. [00:27:03] Speaker C: Who you got for number 11? [00:27:05] Speaker B: 11. Missouri. [00:27:08] Speaker A: The Mizzou. [00:27:09] Speaker B: Mizzou. [00:27:11] Speaker C: I don't know. How many are they returning? [00:27:13] Speaker B: 13. [00:27:14] Speaker C: Offense or defense? [00:27:16] Speaker B: 8 defense, 5 offense. [00:27:23] Speaker C: I could see it. But like at the same time though, I could see them having seven wins. It's hard toss up in the SEC with them right now, especially when you got teams like South Carolina, Ole Miss, Bama, Georgia, even Kentucky on the up and up. I could see him as a 10 win, 10 win, 11 win top, but I could also see them with a seven win bottom. [00:27:52] Speaker B: Yeah, they. They end up playing South Carolina, Alabama and Texas A M this year. [00:28:02] Speaker C: That's a Texas A mobile win. A M will somehow choke that away. But getting past Bama and Carolina is going to be the real test. [00:28:14] Speaker A: I don't think South Carolina has beaten Texas A M yet. [00:28:19] Speaker C: They blew them up last year. [00:28:22] Speaker A: Did they? I don't think so. Did they, John? Who won that game last year? [00:28:26] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:28:28] Speaker C: Carolina did because it knocked off Texas A. And from being in the top 10. [00:28:33] Speaker A: I don't know. You know, I think it'll. I think it'll be interesting. I'm trying to look up the score right now anyway. Will they get past him this year? I don't know. I don't think so. I think South Carolina wins that game. I think Carolina wins that game. Go game. Cox. [00:29:07] Speaker B: I don't think. I don't think South Carolina plays. Yeah, they do. Yes, they do. [00:29:13] Speaker A: Yeah, they play him. I'm almost sure they playing. [00:29:17] Speaker C: South Carolina is on the up and up right now. And the way and the culture that they've got about the team and the swagger about him. [00:29:26] Speaker A: He's his daddy. [00:29:27] Speaker C: They're going to be a good team. [00:29:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:33] Speaker C: It'S going to be becoming, you know, are they going to be able to get over that hump to get in the playoffs? That. That's going to be the key component. [00:29:41] Speaker A: I think they're hungry for it. I do, too. They could be dangerous if they get in there. [00:29:45] Speaker C: They have four games that they have to win. [00:29:50] Speaker A: You're not getting, for whatever reason, this might be the best year for them to try to get past Georgia. Yep. Okay. Now, they used to go down there and play Georgia real well, Very close every time. [00:30:02] Speaker C: Until Georgia took the leap. [00:30:04] Speaker A: Until Georgia took the lead. But. [00:30:06] Speaker B: And South Carolina does not play Georgia this year. [00:30:09] Speaker C: Oh, now, that changes things, though. Who do they play? [00:30:13] Speaker A: Bama in, In Oklahoma. [00:30:15] Speaker B: They play Missouri, lsu, Alabama, Ole Miss, Texas A M, club site. [00:30:24] Speaker A: They've got a very favorable schedule. [00:30:27] Speaker C: They've got a gauntlet. [00:30:29] Speaker A: They do, but they don't. Alabama, they played. They were this close. [00:30:32] Speaker C: They can be. [00:30:33] Speaker A: All right. [00:30:33] Speaker C: Look, look, they can beat Ole Miss. They've got to play fast, though. And is it at Ole Miss or at Carolina? [00:30:42] Speaker B: I, I, I didn't market where. [00:30:45] Speaker C: Oh, if it's at Carolina, they got a good chance. If it's, you know, at Miss, they, It's a hard day. [00:30:54] Speaker A: But Nemo is like his dad. I know he is, Frank. Yep. And he's getting that team prepared. He's getting in the recruits. He's getting them back to that Steve Spurrier attitude. [00:31:06] Speaker C: Yep. [00:31:06] Speaker A: When the gamecocks went 10 and 2 and Spurrier told everyone, why not us? Yep. And he proved it could be done. Spurrier had the recipe to prove that it could be done. So it'll be interesting. South Carolina is a dark horse. Yeah. But I think that they are a very strong dark horse. Would you agree, John? [00:31:34] Speaker B: Everything has no injuries and, or limited entries, and they have to win some big games on the road. [00:31:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah. I like them. I, you know. [00:31:55] Speaker C: Yeah, we're getting down in the top 10 now. [00:31:57] Speaker A: All right, so we are at what number? Number 10. [00:32:02] Speaker B: Number 10. Texas A&M. 15 starters coming back, plus. Or quarterback. [00:32:11] Speaker C: I could see. It's the same thing, though. You know, it's like they have, they have a ceiling, but then they have a bottom. You know, they could end up 11, 11 wins. They could end up eight wins. [00:32:25] Speaker A: Yeah, they, they're one of those teams. Everything is going good. There's six or seven, and all of a sudden. And then all of a sudden the steering wheel. [00:32:34] Speaker C: 40 points dropped on them, you know. [00:32:36] Speaker A: And when the steering wheel comes off or they blow the tire, they're headed right for the retaining wall. I don't know. So next thing you know, the airbags are popped and everyone's shaking their head what happened. [00:32:53] Speaker B: I think they're over Jumbo, though. [00:32:58] Speaker A: I don't know. They could be, they could be great. And then all of a sudden, they could be implode. Yeah, they held that Firecracker. Just too long before they tossed it. All right, so who is number nine? [00:33:22] Speaker B: Ole Miss. [00:33:25] Speaker C: Yep. Right there in the top. [00:33:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but they lose those big games. [00:33:30] Speaker C: They got to get past Texas, they. [00:33:31] Speaker A: Got to get past Georgia. [00:33:33] Speaker C: They got to get past Bama. [00:33:34] Speaker A: They're not good at getting past. No, Georgia seems to be one of those teams that slips them up consistently. Kirby Smart has their number. Yeah. And he enjoys it, you know, so that's one of those things where Kirby is out there. He's got the top shelf liquor. It's right there in the sideline, and he's taking a shot of the old Glenn Levitt or whatever. And the next thing you know, George is up by two touchdowns. So it's. Can they get past the big teams? [00:34:07] Speaker C: That's the question. [00:34:08] Speaker A: That's the question. [00:34:09] Speaker B: Ole Miss only has five stars coming back. [00:34:12] Speaker A: And there's your answer. It's gonna be rough. Here's the answer. [00:34:19] Speaker B: They play lsu, Georgia and South Carolina. [00:34:23] Speaker A: And that's three teams that they could very well stumble on. [00:34:26] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. [00:34:28] Speaker A: That's three teams. Other than that there sounds like their schedule is pretty favorable. [00:34:33] Speaker B: Yeah, they have. It's. It. It's easy if you want to say that for SEC schedule. [00:34:40] Speaker A: Yeah, but. Yeah, but see, SEC just went to. [00:34:43] Speaker C: Nine conference games, by the way. They have agreed to go to nine conference games. [00:34:49] Speaker A: And the other interesting thing is the teams can't count out. Vanderbilt. Nope. You know, Pavia's back and he wants to send a very clear message by. [00:35:00] Speaker C: Going seven and five again. [00:35:01] Speaker A: And he might. But look at the teams that he beat. Did you do that? He. He's. He's like, I'm going to wreck your season just because I want to. Exactly. And then on the. That's what Vander Bell is, though. [00:35:13] Speaker C: That's all they got to look forward to. [00:35:14] Speaker A: And. And then on the rest of the games, it's like, well, you know, you can't say, well, we beat you because it's not going to happen. It's. They lose to teams that they should have no business losing to. Y. [00:35:25] Speaker C: And then to the big teams, they. [00:35:28] Speaker A: Come in there and wreck a season. It's like, you know, and Vanderbilt is. [00:35:35] Speaker B: Parts of Span Nil. Because they don't have to. They have the money. [00:35:42] Speaker A: All right. Number six. [00:35:46] Speaker B: No, not number eight. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Oh, number eight. I'm sorry, I jumped down. It's the dyslexia, folks. It's a dyslexia. [00:35:55] Speaker B: Tennessee. [00:35:57] Speaker C: I like that. But at the same time, I don't know what to expect from Tennessee this year. They could be a bottom feeder at number 25. [00:36:04] Speaker A: So who's the quarterback? Great question. Yeah, he left. You know, who's the quarterback? I. I mean, did one of the coaches jump in there that we don't know about? We have an offensive coordinator in there. I don't know. I hear, you know. [00:36:28] Speaker C: Tennessee's best bet was last year. Unless a miracle happens and they. They magically gain a quarterback. [00:36:37] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. And remember, they're going to. Everyone's going to do top heavy sec. [00:36:43] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:36:43] Speaker A: So it's. I think you're seeing it now and they're not counting on the other teams, but we'll find out. Number seven, Penn State. I think Penn State is getting. [00:36:56] Speaker C: I can see them. [00:36:57] Speaker A: Underrated. [00:36:58] Speaker C: Yeah. I could see them higher. [00:37:00] Speaker A: You know, I, I think that this. If there's a year for them to. [00:37:04] Speaker C: Come around, it'll be this year. [00:37:06] Speaker A: It'll be this year. [00:37:08] Speaker C: And they could come out and run the table, for all we know. [00:37:10] Speaker A: Yeah. And they could. [00:37:12] Speaker B: Penn State plays Oregon, Iowa, Ohio State and Ohio State. And Indiana. [00:37:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:21] Speaker A: They don't have Michigan, do they? [00:37:23] Speaker B: Nope. [00:37:23] Speaker C: They could win this year. [00:37:25] Speaker A: And they, they. They could. Potentially. They could run the table and they could. I mean, when you've got Jim Knowles. [00:37:33] Speaker C: Their two games are going to be Oregon and Ohio State. [00:37:36] Speaker A: Yeah. You could always count on Penn State losing two games a year, but that was before. Now you have a defensive core coordinator that is worth his salt. [00:37:47] Speaker B: They used to call that a linebacker. You. [00:37:51] Speaker C: Yeah. If Jim Knowles invests, and I'll put it that way, if he invests into Penn State the way that I've seen him do, like at Oklahoma State, Ohio State, then. Well, you can't really say Ohio State much. You really can't, because he had an issue with. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Yeah. But personal issues aside, personally ran a very good, solid defense when he lost to Oregon. [00:38:16] Speaker C: Ryan Day stepped in. That's all I'm saying. So from that point forward, they went from a 3, 3, 5 to a. Yeah. [00:38:25] Speaker A: They changed it up. Yeah. [00:38:27] Speaker C: Back to a 3. 4, 4. [00:38:29] Speaker A: 3, 2, 3, 2. So it'll be very interesting to see how they do, but I think that they're underrated. I think that they should be. They're probably top 14 in my. My thoughts. But we'll wait and see. We'll wait and see. All right, number. Where are we on six? [00:38:48] Speaker B: Alabama. [00:38:50] Speaker A: I could see that. Now. Can DeBoer get. Yeah. [00:38:53] Speaker C: Can he get the players to respond to the culture like Saban could? Or is the culture gone? [00:39:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Saving to be. [00:39:01] Speaker C: That's the real question. [00:39:02] Speaker A: He'd be out there barking at those places. [00:39:04] Speaker C: Would have never allowed last. Even, you know, last season to happen. [00:39:07] Speaker A: No. Yeah. He. He have been out there and said, get. Get in the truck. You stink. [00:39:14] Speaker C: You know, you'd have been off the team. [00:39:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:17] Speaker C: A couple of those instances that. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:18] Speaker C: There would have been some players. [00:39:20] Speaker A: You've embarrassed us. You've embarrassed the whole family. Get in the truck. You know, that. That's. That's how Nick ran things. I mean, you know, and then he chew him out the whole time and walk the sideline, following them down the sideline, saying, what's. What were you thinking? Go sit down on the bench. Think about what you did, you know, so number six is a good spot for them. I like them at number six. [00:39:48] Speaker C: You got a number five number. [00:39:52] Speaker B: Notre Dame. [00:39:54] Speaker C: It's a good spot. [00:39:55] Speaker A: That's a good spot for Notre Dame. I think that's a fair spot for Notre Dame. [00:39:59] Speaker C: And they've got a good bit of a hard schedule this year. [00:40:01] Speaker A: Do. Well, they do. And. But you know what? Marcus Freeman is gonna have him ready. He's a good fit up there. He's. He's a very good fit. He's. He's an old. [00:40:11] Speaker C: Old trestle ball. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Didn't it. Yes, he did. And I'm going to tell you that he was fierce. [00:40:17] Speaker C: So it was. It was. It was old school trestle ball. If you look at the national championship last year, it was. [00:40:24] Speaker A: He plays that way. Yeah. You know what it is? He is one of those guys, John, that comes in there and they don't just grind. They will physically try to beat you up. And they proved that to Georgia last year. They got into the trenches and they said, we'll go pound for pound with you. And they did. And then they did it to Penn State also. And, you know, was it a punch in the mouth? No. But, you know, was it a little bit of a, you know, smack across the chops? Yeah. Yeah. You know, the danger went off the. Notre Dame was up at the end of the game. It was. Watch your mouth. Number four, Georgia. [00:41:16] Speaker C: Good spot. [00:41:17] Speaker A: Yeah. You just can't as long as Kirby Smart is there. Yeah. Because he brings in the talent. There's no question he brings in the talent. He brings. He has that toughness. [00:41:32] Speaker C: But the question becomes now, though, are, you know, are teams catching on to Kirby? [00:41:38] Speaker A: Is there a parody? Yeah. [00:41:39] Speaker C: Is there a parody for me? Because he got into a couple close games last year. [00:41:45] Speaker A: Yes, he did. [00:41:46] Speaker C: And the playoff kind of showed that. You Know when they finally ran into. [00:41:50] Speaker A: Notre Dame, but when push came to shove, just like the Texas game. Yep. Texas was up on them and somehow or another. Oh, they fought back. Yeah. But they, they fought back and then came back and, you know, and won that game. You know, whether, you know, Texas slipped on a, you know, a piece of ice or whatever it was, you know. Yeah. [00:42:17] Speaker B: Sarkeesian. I don't know. Phenomenal. Whatever you want to call it. [00:42:24] Speaker C: Are we calling it a Penn State? Did a Penn State happen? [00:42:28] Speaker A: Yes, it did. It was a pen stated. Yeah. [00:42:34] Speaker B: Career has been. He's like, who was the guy at Little had the motor motorcycle wreck? [00:42:45] Speaker A: Yes. And it happened to them, too. They couldn't seem to get over that one. What? One thing, you know. Yep. I mean, it. They were edge to edge with Clemson, if you remember. And I thought, wow, they're gonna, they're gonna upset Clemson. Beautiful. Beautiful. And whatever happened at the end, it's like, oh, what just happened? You know what happened? And, you know, it's. I don't know. We're gonna have to wait and see. Number three, Oregon. [00:43:22] Speaker C: Good spot. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Yeah. You're dealing with speed. You're dealing. He's a great coach. Lane's a good coach. [00:43:30] Speaker C: The thing about it with Oregon, all right, is they're gonna score points. [00:43:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:43:36] Speaker C: They're gonna score a lot of points. [00:43:37] Speaker A: And they're fast. [00:43:38] Speaker C: And they're fast. [00:43:39] Speaker A: They're real fast. [00:43:40] Speaker C: So you honestly gotta come out on Oregon like Ohio State did in the Rose Bowl. [00:43:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:46] Speaker C: You've just gotta attack them and don't stop. [00:43:49] Speaker A: Yeah. You gotta hope that maybe Dan Landon went out on a Friday night and yeah. Got sauced or something. And then now I was take advantage of them. Quick. Quick. [00:44:00] Speaker C: I will always say, you know, at the same time, I can always say this. You know, last year, if you look at the two games, Ohio State versus Oregon, you know, Ohio State had the smallest of little mistakes that cost them from blowing out Oregon. [00:44:18] Speaker A: Well, I, I would say it was a pretty good blowout. [00:44:21] Speaker C: No, I'm talking about in Eugene. If you look at it in Eugene, there was three, three times, I think stalled drives due to stupid penalties that Ohio State would have scored. [00:44:33] Speaker A: I, I think that the mistake was. Was trying putting the offensive line the way it was. [00:44:38] Speaker C: Yes. [00:44:38] Speaker A: Actually, after the injury to Seth McLaughlin. [00:44:42] Speaker C: Yes. [00:44:42] Speaker A: All of a sudden they found an offensive line that would work. Who's up next? Let's get the next biggest guy, you know, and Phil spot. That's it. You know, so that's a good spot for Them. Number two, Texas. I don't know. Arch Manning. Texas is stacked. Their defense is. Most of their defense is coming down. [00:45:12] Speaker C: But they're still run by Sarkeesian. So. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Is Sarkeesian a Franklin? Yeah. I don't know. Yes. Yes. What do you think, John? [00:45:23] Speaker B: I think he wins eight games here. [00:45:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:29] Speaker B: The three he loses are the three he snatches victory out of the Dolls. [00:45:36] Speaker A: Defeat. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Defeat. [00:45:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:41] Speaker C: It's. [00:45:41] Speaker A: It's a true statement. [00:45:42] Speaker C: I mean, look at last year. What are the losses last year. [00:45:48] Speaker A: But they weren't. They weren't blowout losses. [00:45:52] Speaker C: No, they don't have to be. [00:45:53] Speaker A: But John's right. If you can't. [00:45:55] Speaker C: Exactly. If you can't win the games that you need to win, what's the point? [00:46:01] Speaker A: But you have to understand. New conference. Getting used to new conference. But I think John's right. In. In that one, they. They have. That's perfect analogy. Ripping victory or ripping defeat out of the jaws of victory. Yep. Is what they did. And. And. And they punished themselves. They. They put their own dog collar on and gave themselves. You know, look at. [00:46:27] Speaker C: Look at Texas vs Ohio State last year. It came down to the final, you know, right before the strip sack, touchdown. But why. [00:46:36] Speaker A: Look at the break. Why would you. [00:46:38] Speaker C: The three plays that came before, run up the middle. [00:46:42] Speaker B: Why. [00:46:43] Speaker C: They knew it was coming. Then you passed, which that didn't work. And then you're gonna try to run to the outside again. [00:46:50] Speaker A: You lost four yards. And then from there, at that point. [00:46:56] Speaker C: They already know what you got to do. [00:46:57] Speaker A: You have to pass. [00:46:59] Speaker C: It's fourth down. There's nothing left that you can do. [00:47:03] Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, when you looked at that, when they did run that to the outside, that was. You're playing against the number one defense in the country. [00:47:13] Speaker C: You could see it a mile away. I was at home watching it saying, run. [00:47:20] Speaker A: Helen Keller spotted that one from two and a half miles away. And. And she didn't even watch college football. No. [00:47:31] Speaker B: Texas has the toughest schedule this year. [00:47:35] Speaker A: I believe it. Who do they got? [00:47:39] Speaker B: Their tough teams are Ohio State, Georgia, Texas A and M. And then of. [00:47:48] Speaker C: Course, the rest of the got. [00:47:50] Speaker A: Who else in the sec? [00:47:53] Speaker B: I don't know because I. I only picked the. Their toughest opponents on the top 25. [00:48:05] Speaker A: Yeah. That's fair. That's fair. You know, it's a number one. [00:48:11] Speaker B: Number one Ohio State. [00:48:14] Speaker C: Yep. [00:48:17] Speaker A: Can they do it with Julian saying, my question is this. Will Howard was a big, big boy. [00:48:23] Speaker C: Will Howard was a dog. [00:48:24] Speaker A: And that was the thing about it. [00:48:26] Speaker C: Will Howard had the swagger about him, but he wasn't egotistical. And that was the thing about it. He was humble enough that he knew his job was very simple. You know, put, put the Lambo in drive. [00:48:43] Speaker A: And no evasive maneuvers. It's that simple. [00:48:46] Speaker C: You know, all Julian has to do is hold the steering wheel. That's all he's got to do. [00:48:52] Speaker A: Yeah, and I think that's the biggest question. I, I think Ohio State has two very capable quarterbacks. And you'll notice Lincoln didn't jump ship. [00:49:03] Speaker C: No, he's not going to because he, he stuck around. [00:49:07] Speaker A: And I give that kid much kudos. And you gotta remember, he was tossed into the mix of Missouri game. To a very good Missouri team that was 10 and 2. [00:49:17] Speaker C: Oh yeah. With zero reps or anything. [00:49:20] Speaker A: Right. And they had four full. [00:49:21] Speaker C: Basically ice on his arm. [00:49:23] Speaker A: They, they had full strength when all their players were there for that bowl game. And Ohio State, because of disappointment and delusion. [00:49:34] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:49:35] Speaker A: You know, delusions of grandeur at that time. Bail. And they said to this kid after Devin Brown got hurt, well, it's your turn. And the poor kid is the, it was the third string. [00:49:51] Speaker C: Decent. And that's the thing about it. Like he played decent. [00:49:54] Speaker A: He ran for his life. Yeah, absolutely did. But. And then he was hurt too. But he said, you know what? I'm gonna stick it out. I'm gonna do this. And you know, they ate his lunch, but only by two scores. To where had they been at full strength, they would have beat Missouri head to head. [00:50:11] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:50:13] Speaker A: But. And I've never liked that. And I don't know if you would. Would say the, the same thing, John, but these kids, oh, I'm not going to play in the bowl game because I want to go pro. No, you got a free scholarship. [00:50:28] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:50:29] Speaker A: And because you got that scholarship, you, you cannot entertain the thought of bailing on a game. I think that once you're committed and you do that and you bail on a game, hey, you know what? Pay back your scholarship. You're going to make the money in the pros, pay back your scholarship. Until that time, every game in the NFL, you take a risk. [00:50:52] Speaker C: Yep. [00:50:53] Speaker A: Will you take that risk the same way in college? And most of these kids are insured anyway. They have big insurance on, you know, they get hurt, so. [00:51:04] Speaker C: Plus medical staff. [00:51:06] Speaker A: Yeah, plus a medical staff, you know, to take care of them too. I don't like the idea of kids bailing on college games and bowl games. No, I think that it is arrogant. I think that it is disrespectful to your teammates, disrespectful to the school. And I just, I, I think it's. [00:51:29] Speaker C: But in the same regard though, I could honestly say this. You know, if you're, if you're a big time program, let's say Oregon and they miss the grass of the playoff, they get stuck with the New Year's, sure they want to win, but at the same time, you know, let's say, you know, the quarterback, the wide receiver and the running back all want to sit on out because they're going to go pro. It's a great time for younger players to step into the prime life. So you have the goods and the bads and go along with it at the same time. It is what it is. [00:51:59] Speaker A: I don't care if it's the big pin bowl. Okay. You know, or, or the, you know, I, I don't care. I think that if you're there at the school, you play. That was the whole, that's the whole premise. You play the game. So folks, there's your there, there is your top 25 there. Courtesy of John. What do you guys think now? Now we're going to delve deep into something here and we are going to, we are going to move along and let's talk about Michigan, let's talk about those slap on the hand NCAA wonderful guys. That same. I, Their analogy of how they handle things was what was poor. I mean, absolutely, you had two teams, especially usc, if you go back to usc, they stripped them of the Reggie Bush of his Heisman. They banned them from Bulls for what was it? How many years was it? Two years, four years. [00:53:11] Speaker C: Two years, 14 wins, one Heisman, one national title. [00:53:15] Speaker A: And vacated the wins on that. [00:53:17] Speaker C: Yeah, vacated 14 wins, one Heisman, one national title, two year postseason ban. And a financial recruits. Yeah, 20. Oh oh, 30 something recruits. [00:53:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Scholarships strip them down to the bone. Corn on the cob doesn't eat, get eaten closer. So no, and, and see the funny. [00:53:41] Speaker C: Thing about it is, is like Southern Cal hasn't gotten back since probably what. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Since then, you know, they, they've been close here. [00:53:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Never, never fully stuck with it. [00:53:56] Speaker A: Yeah. There's still, you know, and everyone thought that okay, Lincoln being there, they were going to do okay. But then you get also into Ohio State, Urban Meyer, I, I don't think in his mind at all did he think he was going to sign on to a team that was going to have the penalties that they had. [00:54:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:16] Speaker A: And Gene Smith had to go to him and say we got a Problem. And they took away but 12 wins and basically, hey, look, you. You can't. You can't sit there and go play in the championship. Which they would have made. [00:54:33] Speaker C: Yeah, they went undefeated. [00:54:35] Speaker A: And because they were 12, 0. So they were undefeated. And it was for the kids. [00:54:41] Speaker C: Phenomenal team. [00:54:42] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was for the very reason that they told Michigan, oh, well, you know, those kids weren't there. We don't want to punish them. Well, it was the same difference. Yeah. [00:54:52] Speaker C: These kids weren't there. [00:54:53] Speaker A: And it was for the same thing, Nil. Basically. It was tattoos and some memorabilia and everyone's like, well, they played ineligible players. They weren't ineligible. [00:55:03] Speaker C: They were already playing. They were playing a year prior. [00:55:06] Speaker A: They were playing. They. They had at that time. Those players weren't serving an ineligibility until 2011. [00:55:13] Speaker C: Well, it wasn't even that. It wasn't served until, what, the eighth, eighth or ninth game of the season. And they wanted the players to sit out for the remaining four games. [00:55:24] Speaker A: And no offense even. [00:55:26] Speaker C: I mean, personal take for me, if I'm told to sit out and it's my final year, I'm playing the games. [00:55:32] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, and basically the nil comes in, then later on, name, image and likeness. And that kind of nullified that. Yeah. So, you know, they punish both these teams good. And Michigan gets slapped. I don't care if the head coach left. We knew he was gonna book. He knew he did wrong. He was looking for a job and probably in the middle of the season or, you know, in the last, you know, oh, he knew four games. He's like, oh, we've been found. You know, I'm getting on the phone right now with some of the NFL and let's see what I can get. [00:56:08] Speaker C: But I will state this, you know, as much of a slap on the hand as it is. Well, at the same time, they went after the pocket of Michigan and, And I was, you know, I agreed to an extent because it affects the recruiting, it affects the no payout, and it affects the wallet, essentially. So. [00:56:26] Speaker A: But they always get the wallet. They always. [00:56:28] Speaker C: That's the thing. [00:56:29] Speaker A: But here's. [00:56:29] Speaker C: Here's what Michigan's done now. Michigan went back and appealed it the same day. So now it's going to get tossed. [00:56:35] Speaker A: Up into the courts and it'll stay. [00:56:37] Speaker C: There, and it'll just stay there for years. [00:56:39] Speaker A: Now. [00:56:40] Speaker C: The, the thing about it is, though, is that Michigan still has to fail, face the penalties towards recruiting. Everybody forgets Michigan just got sanctioned for recruiting right before the sanctions for the, The Sun Gate, I guess you could call it. [00:56:56] Speaker A: They never even took into account that a couple of the coaches went in there and broke into the computer systems and we're watching the girls having. [00:57:06] Speaker C: Yeah, but that's separate. You can't. You can't tie the two together. [00:57:09] Speaker A: Oh, you tie it all together. Yeah. It's called dirty, you know. [00:57:14] Speaker C: You know, but as far as the sign stuff goes, it's, you know, it says enough when you've basically been crucified at the stakes. [00:57:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was an elaborate scheme, but it doesn't matter if the players were there or not, because you're not affecting the new players. Now, what they should have done was we're going to vacate. We'll give you your national championship. [00:57:39] Speaker C: Vacate 2122. [00:57:41] Speaker A: But we're going to vacate 2122. And, you know, you can keep your 15. Zero. Yeah. 23. And, you know, or they want. They want it and. What was it? 24. Right. Ohio State won it. No, they want it in 24. But 21 22, you vacate those wins, you punish them for it, and they have to suffer like everybody else did. And you take away some recruiting. [00:58:13] Speaker C: Yep. [00:58:14] Speaker A: I mean, there's the lesson there. And then the. Then the teams. But the NCAA proved to me, first of all, they have no teeth. Nope. You know, fine. No back, no nothing. They don't have the gravitas, you know, to be fair with anyone, because they butchered Kentucky last year. We saw that. They butchered Kentucky last year. [00:58:36] Speaker C: All they've stated is that they have favorites. [00:58:38] Speaker A: Yeah, they have. They have their bias. They wanted cash. They were getting ready to go defunct. Okay. And they said, what's it going to take to bail us out? And they were on the phone with the banker, you know, 40 million. Sounds nice. Yeah. You know, you guys are 10 million in the whole 20, you know, let's go. No final numbers. [00:59:02] Speaker C: It's over 30 something million. [00:59:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I. Yeah, but. But I'm just saying that. [00:59:08] Speaker C: And this is what I meant, though. [00:59:09] Speaker A: Do we need them? Are they relevant with the ncaa? Yeah, not really. Are they relevant anymore, John? [00:59:19] Speaker B: I. I would say just for the historical. [00:59:26] Speaker C: Pretext. Yeah. [00:59:28] Speaker B: Not. Not today's setup. [00:59:32] Speaker A: No. Can't we just put a plaque on the wall for him, then. [00:59:37] Speaker C: Rest in pieces? [00:59:39] Speaker A: You know, they were here. We acknowledge them. They did. Okay. But, you know, they're gone. Great years. Great. Yeah. Here's a plaque on the wall for you. And then let's go from there. [00:59:52] Speaker C: No, I think what you're going to See now is that you're going to see a contract structural basis, kind of like the NFL players are going to start going under these contracts and you know, contract breaking or void of contract is going to start affecting some of these kids. You know, you, you see a little bit of it now with the nil, you know, as great as everybody wants to call it out to be and whatnot. You know, these kids didn't realize that as soon as they went into the transfer portal, your nil, your scholarship, all that goes out the door. You know, the minute that you've entered your name, you know, all that's gone. The minute of that semester ends, it's on you. You've got to pay it on up. So if you don't get picked up by another team, you're back at home. [01:00:36] Speaker A: Sit on the couch. [01:00:36] Speaker C: Yeah, it's, it's, it's a very, very tough lesson for a lot of these guys to realize, especially you know, being 18, 19, 20, you know. [01:00:47] Speaker A: So who is the most overrated team this year that will blow it and stumble because of stupidity? Basically taking the ice cream cone, sticking it on their head and using their own tongue to beat the snot out of themselves? [01:01:03] Speaker C: Miami. [01:01:05] Speaker A: Florida. Florida State. Okay, John's got Florida State. You have Miami. [01:01:09] Speaker C: No, no, the real clown this year let's. [01:01:20] Speaker B: Oklahoma State. [01:01:22] Speaker C: It's really a tough one was last year I, I'm. Who's Gonna be the Owen 12? [01:01:31] Speaker A: No, no, they won't. They won't be the 0 and 12. But they'll miss the playoffs because they got sloppy at the end bama and they missed the judgment of the 1 yard line to the end zone. [01:01:42] Speaker C: Oh, I'm back to Miami. It's Miami. [01:01:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it's Miami. John would say. We used to say you take an ice cream cone, you put it on your head and when you're not thinking right, you take your tongue and you beat the snot out of yourself trying to get to the ice cream cone. [01:01:54] Speaker C: And then call yourself a unicorn as you're doing. [01:01:56] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the team that I'm talking about right there. I think in all honesty it'll be Alabama. It's either going to. Yeah, I'm with you. [01:02:06] Speaker C: It's either going to be Bama or it's going to be Miami and it's. [01:02:08] Speaker A: Deborah because it's going to either be. [01:02:10] Speaker C: DeBoer or it's going to be. What's his face back? [01:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Miami. Yeah. What do you think, John? [01:02:19] Speaker B: I, I still think it'll be for. [01:02:20] Speaker A: A State, Florida State, Florida State. [01:02:24] Speaker C: They haven't been able to pick up the ax off themselves yet. [01:02:28] Speaker A: Florida State did that all last year. And I'm just not sure they wiped the ice cream off their head. They might still have it in there. It's still melting up there, I think. [01:02:37] Speaker C: I think even everybody's figured it out. [01:02:39] Speaker A: You know, you put Florida State up. [01:02:40] Speaker C: In the top 10 for what, three, four years in a row just to watch them win maybe seven games. [01:02:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I think. I think it'll be interesting. Well, I mean, this is something that we. We get to talk about now. Next week, folks, we. We won't be here. I am actually going on vacation with the family the week after the. The big games, the start of the season. And let's go down it real quick picks for week one. Who do you all like? John, Go over them. [01:03:17] Speaker B: Ohio State plays Texas at Ohio State. [01:03:23] Speaker A: Ohio State, Yep. Ohio State. [01:03:25] Speaker C: Yep. [01:03:26] Speaker A: John, who do you like? [01:03:32] Speaker C: I don't see Arch Manning as much potential as he has. I do not see him going into Ohio Stadium and not being unscathed. [01:03:39] Speaker A: Nope. Just pick your team on this one. Yeah, just pick your teams. [01:03:44] Speaker B: I'll go. I'll use my formula. [01:03:51] Speaker A: Oh, he's got the nasty formula. [01:03:53] Speaker C: This is. [01:03:54] Speaker A: This is gonna be tough for everybody because John has the computer formula. Mike has the take a good guess formula. [01:04:06] Speaker B: So Ohio State by two and a half points. [01:04:10] Speaker A: Two and a half. [01:04:10] Speaker C: I'll take that. [01:04:11] Speaker A: All right, next game up. [01:04:14] Speaker B: Next game, Oregon plays Montana State. [01:04:20] Speaker C: Well, we know the winner of that one. [01:04:21] Speaker A: Oregon. Call the name. [01:04:26] Speaker B: Georgia plays Marshall. [01:04:29] Speaker A: Georgia. Georgia. [01:04:31] Speaker B: And number five, Notre Dame, plays Miami. [01:04:35] Speaker A: Notre Dame. Notre Dame. [01:04:40] Speaker B: And I just don't know how Beck will do them at Miami yet. [01:04:48] Speaker A: He'll be a wreck. Just like his last name. It matches up. It rhymes. Back the wreck. All right, next game. [01:05:00] Speaker B: Penn State plays in Nevada. [01:05:06] Speaker C: State. [01:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna take Penn State because they're physically gonna out muscle them by. [01:05:11] Speaker B: 15 points a half. [01:05:13] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I can see that cartoon. It'll be a woodshed. It'll be a woodshed. [01:05:29] Speaker B: Next to Tennessee plays Syracuse. [01:05:32] Speaker C: Syracuse. [01:05:33] Speaker A: I'm taking Tennessee. I don't know who the quarterback is, but it could be Syracuse. [01:05:41] Speaker B: No, I'm taking Tennessee because they have all that defense back. [01:05:45] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [01:05:47] Speaker C: The defense that gave up 45. [01:05:52] Speaker A: Yeah, but they. [01:05:52] Speaker B: They. [01:05:53] Speaker A: They played a force. But what force? Next. [01:05:56] Speaker B: Next game, Ole Miss plays Georgia State. [01:06:01] Speaker A: Ole Miss. [01:06:02] Speaker C: Ole Miss. [01:06:05] Speaker B: And Texas A and M plays utsa. [01:06:09] Speaker A: That's. That's. God, you can't. You can't write utsa. Off. But the Road Runners. Yeah, they're. They're tough. They're tough. [01:06:19] Speaker C: I'll take Texas A and M. I like the Roadrunners, but. [01:06:25] Speaker B: Me too. I'm taking Texas A and M. Yep. Missouri plays Central Arkansas. [01:06:33] Speaker C: Missou. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Mizzou. [01:06:36] Speaker B: And here's the kill right here. Number 12. LSU plays at Clemson. [01:06:43] Speaker C: Clemson. [01:06:44] Speaker A: Yeah. You know what? The only reason I'm taking Clemson on this game is because at Clemson, Kelly ain't figured out how to win the first game. No. [01:06:55] Speaker B: That'S what I said. [01:06:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:58] Speaker B: It's been a decade of. [01:07:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. He. He. He's the one that knows how. Out of the prime example of what you said. [01:07:10] Speaker C: To take defeat from victory. [01:07:13] Speaker A: Defeat and rip it out of the draws of victory. And he does it so efficiently every time, the first game. And, you know, and he tells his guys about it. Do you remember last year? Do you remember the year before? Let's not do that again this year. And a year before that. And he finds a way to do it. Bring back Miles. Yeah. And it's a great game all the way to the end. And all of a sudden, there's the field goal going through the upright. Oh, man. [01:07:44] Speaker B: He'S got that. Looking into the sun. He can't. Yeah, yeah, that's him on the sideline. [01:07:54] Speaker A: Yeah, he's got. He's got. [01:07:57] Speaker B: Every day he got that look. [01:07:59] Speaker A: He's got a whole bottle of Tums. And it's all for the first game. Yeah. [01:08:06] Speaker C: Probably sweating right now. [01:08:07] Speaker A: All right, next game, Indiana plays odu. Oh, Old Dominion, huh? [01:08:15] Speaker C: Old Dominion. Indiana. [01:08:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Indiana. [01:08:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Indiana for me, too. Boise State is at South Florida. [01:08:30] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I like Boise State. [01:08:36] Speaker B: They'll be thoroughly. At all. [01:08:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. But they. Somehow or another, they. They pull it out, and I don't know how they do it, but they pull it out every time. So Boise State. All right, next one. [01:08:52] Speaker B: SMU plays East Texas A&M. [01:08:56] Speaker A: SMU. [01:08:57] Speaker C: Yeah, SMU. [01:09:01] Speaker B: SMU. My. Is my pick, too. Miami versus Notre Dame. [01:09:09] Speaker C: Notre Dame. [01:09:09] Speaker A: Notre Dame. [01:09:14] Speaker B: And I have that. I have that. [01:09:19] Speaker A: It is a toss up, but I'll still take Notre Dame advantage. Marcus Freeman. Yep. [01:09:29] Speaker B: I'm looking up. I'm looking at right now. [01:09:31] Speaker C: Now, I will say this, though. Well, Beck. Did Beck play against Notre Dame last year? No, he didn't play, did he? [01:09:39] Speaker B: No, he's hurt. [01:09:41] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what I thought. So never mind. No advantage to him then, because he. He's never played him before. [01:09:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:49] Speaker B: Straight up, I have Notre Dame by four. [01:09:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I'd take that Notre Dame. Next one. [01:09:58] Speaker B: Arizona State versus Northern Arizona. [01:10:02] Speaker C: Arizona State. [01:10:03] Speaker A: Arizona State. [01:10:06] Speaker B: With their 17 stars back. Arizona. [01:10:10] Speaker A: Yeah, you can't count the Sun Devils out on that one. I'm sorry, they're just, they were a good team aside. [01:10:16] Speaker C: Scatter. Boo. [01:10:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I mean the defense was phenomenal and, and they've got a whole bunch of people coming back. I, I think that they have the best chance of outright winning the Big 12. [01:10:33] Speaker B: That's cool. And then the big, the, the big game of the week. Iowa at University of Albany. [01:10:42] Speaker C: University of what? [01:10:46] Speaker A: So basically the Iowa. No, University Albano. The high school team. I know. Yeah. So you know, so I said Iowa. Yeah, it's Iowa without a doubt. And I mean they have no business playing them. [01:11:10] Speaker B: That's my next argument about the, the bcs. If you're gonna play in the bcs, you know, the Southwest Community College of. Is out. [01:11:28] Speaker A: Not the Community College of whatchamacallit. We call that padding stats. [01:11:38] Speaker B: Alabama playing Mercer. [01:11:40] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Some things that should never be allowed. And if it is, it should be a movie at the drive in movie theaters, you know. [01:11:53] Speaker B: Next up, TCU versus North Carolina. [01:11:57] Speaker C: North Carolina, Bill Belichick. I got North Carolina. [01:12:02] Speaker A: Not so fast, my friend. You'll see. I, that's the toss up game to me. I. And it's at North Carolina. [01:12:19] Speaker B: So North Carolina and TCU is a returning nine players and their quarterback. [01:12:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to take tcu. [01:12:29] Speaker C: North Carolina. [01:12:32] Speaker A: What do you like, John? [01:12:33] Speaker B: Tcu. [01:12:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm taking tcu. I agree. [01:12:38] Speaker C: We shall see. [01:12:39] Speaker A: Next up. [01:12:42] Speaker B: Louisville versus Eastern Kentucky. [01:12:45] Speaker C: Louie. [01:12:50] Speaker A: Yep. Louisville. [01:12:52] Speaker B: Louisville and South Carolina plays Virginia Tech. [01:12:59] Speaker C: South Carolina. [01:13:00] Speaker A: Who are they playing? [01:13:01] Speaker B: Virginia Tech. [01:13:04] Speaker C: South Carolina. [01:13:05] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I, I think this is where it gets into where his father starts to come out in him and you know, being the alma mater of, you know, his dad being the Ultima. Oh, yeah. It's gonna be a nice, it's going to be a great game. But I think that South Carolina is a Beamer and you know, he's gonna, he's gonna pull it out. Brute force. [01:13:33] Speaker B: I'm going all in South Carolina. I hope it's a night game. [01:13:39] Speaker A: Well, that'd be great. [01:13:40] Speaker C: That'd be a nice one. [01:13:42] Speaker B: Yeah. You will see the Virginia Tech players being beaten up that way. [01:13:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. Next. [01:13:51] Speaker B: That's all. [01:13:53] Speaker A: That's all of them. What do we have on the bonus games? [01:14:02] Speaker B: You would have asked that question. I did not print that out. Let me, let me. [01:14:06] Speaker A: Hang on, hang on. See, I told you I'd be Ready here. Hang on, my friend. Not so fast, my friend. Okay. See, I told you I'd be prepared. Bonus game number one, Georgia Tech versus Colorado. Yeah, Georgia Tech. It's at Colorado. I'll take Colorado. [01:14:37] Speaker C: I won't. They ain't got nobody. [01:14:42] Speaker A: I'll take Colorado. Okay. Yeah. Utah at ucla. That's a game. All right. [01:14:54] Speaker C: Does Utah still have their 39 year old Polar bike? [01:14:57] Speaker A: Yeah. How old is that kid now at Utah? [01:15:01] Speaker B: He's 41. [01:15:02] Speaker A: Yeah, he's at least 41. Is he in a wheelchair or on a walker? Because that will make a difference. [01:15:10] Speaker C: I think he's still on the cane. [01:15:11] Speaker A: Yeah, if he's still on a cane, I'm going, you know, you how did. [01:15:20] Speaker C: Just yell do as. [01:15:24] Speaker A: I think they missed the and only by a little bit. But I could be wrong. They could have, they could have. [01:15:41] Speaker C: Out of 18. [01:15:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Waiting, waiting, waiting for John. He's probably getting that coffee. And I will take UCLA now. I'm gonna go Utah. [01:15:54] Speaker C: Nope, I'm gonna take ucla. [01:15:56] Speaker A: Speed. What extent grit. John, who do you have for Utah? Ucla. And it's at ucla. [01:16:06] Speaker C: I got ucla. [01:16:07] Speaker A: What does the computer say, sir? [01:16:11] Speaker B: I can't look at it because I got this, this website up and I. [01:16:20] Speaker C: I mean they beat Boise, they beat Hawaii, they lost Indiana, they almost beat UCL last year. They almost beat Oregon. They were close to beating Penn State. [01:16:29] Speaker A: Okay, it's at UCLA. Utah was in the, the PAC 12 at that time. I'm still taking Utah. I'm taking Utah because this isn't unfamiliar territory for them. I think this is very familiar territory. I, I, I think that they're right there. So the travel is not going to be a problem. No, I advantage Utah. Okay. Bonus number three, Northwestern at tane. That's an interesting game to lane I. [01:17:06] Speaker B: Northwest has to get their coaching together. [01:17:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I, I think that, well, they have to do something. They've been dealt a bad deck of cards and they're out of the poker game. They're now playing Go Fish, you know, so I'm gonna go with Tulane. Here you go. This one will be very interesting. Auburn, who gave themselves seven extra titles I believe in the national championship, they just promoted themselves and said now we have more. We, we have nine now, you know, so. [01:17:48] Speaker C: Yeah, self proclaimed four, four national titles. [01:17:51] Speaker A: Yeah, they just, they added, man, Auburn is trying to help as much as they can. They're telling the other teams in the sec, how many you want, you got it. How many you want, you got it. So, but I'm going to Go. I'm going to go Baylor on that one. I think Baylor is one of those speedy little teams and they're pesky and if they can hang in there with Auburn and it's at Baylor, I think Baylor could win that game. [01:18:25] Speaker C: Yep. [01:18:26] Speaker B: And I'm not. I'm not a big fan anymore. [01:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I, I'm not either. But I, I like them better. No, Toledo at Kentucky. [01:18:38] Speaker C: Kentucky. [01:18:40] Speaker A: I don't know. The Rockets. [01:18:42] Speaker C: The Rockets are going to get rocket ship. All right, Kentucky. [01:18:47] Speaker A: So you're telling me they're going to get packed up and sent to Mars? Yeah. All right. Yeah, I can see that. I'll take Kentucky. Who do you like? John? [01:18:57] Speaker B: Yep. Kentucky. [01:18:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that, too. All right. [01:19:02] Speaker B: Even though stoops is a D plus coach. [01:19:09] Speaker A: D plus plus or Joe. [01:19:13] Speaker B: Pay 5.5 million dollars a year for five wins. [01:19:20] Speaker A: That seems. Seems legit. Get your brother. [01:19:26] Speaker B: Get your brother. What's he doing? [01:19:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. He's now going to be the water boy. [01:19:39] Speaker B: I know the people of Kentucky are starting to catch on and they're a little bit behind the back. [01:19:47] Speaker A: All right, so who's next up? That. We're done there with the bonus. So now we have. We have the picks and we did good with that. That is the. The pick him for the week and make sure that you post that on up to Trim Radio offside so John can read them. And John handles that page. So make sure that you post it up there. So we have everything locked. We invite everybody to come on over there, join in. We are going to have trophies this year. We'll. We'll have a couple other surprises here and there. That. Huh. [01:20:31] Speaker B: It's our seventh year. [01:20:33] Speaker A: Yeah. This is the. The seventh year for it. So we're going to have a regular season trophy. We're going to have a championship trophy for the conference championships. We're going to have a. The bowl pick them trophy for the overall who picks the most bowls. And then we are going to have a trophy for the teams that win the one side of the. Yeah. The cfp. And then we're going to have the national championship trophy. So there'll be five trophies there. You get to have a shot at five of them. And we're probably going to toss in a. A shirt along with it for Trim Radio offsides with John, Kalin and Michael. So make sure that you join in. It's going to be a lot of fun and we are going to laugh along the way and make fun of some of the embarrassing things that happen in college football. And I Believe this year will not disappoint. So yeah, we're, we're gonna wait to see who, who, who stumbles to who and why. So what happened? Did they put invisible ink on the paper, you know, when they were writing out the plays? We'll, we'll find out. But anyway, I thank you guys for joining us. We went a little over tonight, but well worth it because we're getting in the beginning of the season, so we have a lot to talk about. And the Michigan thing is done now. Everyone's prediction for Michigan this year, eight wins. John, your prediction for Michigan this year. [01:22:41] Speaker C: I like that they got this quarterback, but who's he throwing to. [01:22:55] Speaker B: Play? I guess so go with nine and two. [01:23:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Nine and three. [01:23:10] Speaker B: Nine and two. [01:23:12] Speaker A: Nine and two. [01:23:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:16] Speaker A: All right. And the next biggest question I haven't. We still have 12 games, right? We still have 12 games. So they'd be nine and three. I like nine and three. I think that's a good spot for him. Big question. Here comes Ohio State or Michigan this year? [01:23:46] Speaker C: Ohio State. It's going to be hard though, and tough in the big house. [01:23:50] Speaker A: But I think it'll be a tough game. Somehow it always ends up that way. But Ohio State has been humiliated enough and I think that this year they're going to learn the lesson and they're going to write the ship. If they don't and the ship has, you know, a lot of leaks in it, then it becomes the titanic. [01:24:19] Speaker C: They're very talented teams. The thing that they lack is explained. That's the number one thing that Ohio State lacks is experience on the offensive line. They have the most experience. Why? Because majority of those people got tossed in last year during the rotations. Defensive line, you have good experience, but none of them have key game time experience aside from rotations being tossed open, you know. [01:24:43] Speaker A: That brings me to one more question. Our final question. Lose to Michigan, win a national championship. Yes. Or beat Michigan and not get the national championship. [01:24:53] Speaker C: Yes. [01:24:54] Speaker A: Which would you prefer? [01:24:55] Speaker C: National title, always. [01:24:58] Speaker A: I think you got to go for the title with the cash. [01:25:01] Speaker C: Yeah, well, it's the national title. Otherwise why are you playing college football? [01:25:06] Speaker A: Yeah, the John. Yeah, that sounds legit. [01:25:12] Speaker C: I'm just saying I don't go to school to go beat up arrival. No, I go to school to trophies. [01:25:16] Speaker A: Yeah. You know. [01:25:19] Speaker B: I think that Coach Day is not Coach Cooper. [01:25:22] Speaker A: No, he's not. [01:25:23] Speaker C: He would have never won a national title. [01:25:27] Speaker B: So I, I, I think it's. [01:25:29] Speaker A: Yeah, Cooper was one of those guys. [01:25:32] Speaker C: He never won a national. [01:25:33] Speaker A: He could get Done. He did it all year long. Yeah. [01:25:36] Speaker C: And then when it came time to. [01:25:37] Speaker A: Money, rip defeat from the victory. [01:25:42] Speaker B: That. [01:25:43] Speaker A: Was Cooper and that was his. He was Cooper Duper. And then he gets to the Michigan game and become Cooper Cooper. Yeah. So, but I, I think interesting conversations. You guys give us your thoughts and, you know, hopefully you guys are tuning in. Get used to us here. Thursday, 7 o' clock to 8 o' clock tonight we went a little bit over and that's okay. Enjoyable always. I hope you all had a good time. And Kaylin, you had a good time. John, do you have a good time? [01:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah, my, my bladder is saying otherwise, but yes. [01:26:26] Speaker A: Yeah, well, that, that's an age thing. I, I, you know, and, and I get it. Mine does that at about 2 o' clock in the morning and it says run. And if I stub my toe, I'm down 30 minutes, I'll crawl. So it's just the way it goes. But anyway, we will catch you guys next week. And let me get back on here. We're switching spots again. Ah, we will catch you guys next week. Please tune in to us if you want to join us. Let us know. We will put up a link so that you can join. You can, come on, you can, you can be in the conversation with us. Give us your thoughts, give us your opinions. If we don't like it, we'll just hang up on you. But we have a lot of fun here. We keep it clean. John comes up with the best analogies, so we add to it. And let's just hope that, you know, it's going to be a good year and a lot of fun and good luck to everyone and their teams. And that's it, man. John, you got any final thoughts? [01:27:50] Speaker B: It'll be fun to watch scramble for 12 weeks. [01:27:56] Speaker A: Yep, absolutely. All right, guys. Thanks for tuning in to offsides, John. Thank you, sir. And let's get down to our. Thanks for watching. This is what we. Thanks. Oh, and we do have merchandise, so if you want, you could come on over to trimradio.com, go on to offsides. We have coffee mugs, we have shirts, we have all kinds of stuff. And you know what? It's a lot of fun. So perfect. [01:28:30] Speaker B: Cool. [01:28:32] Speaker A: All right. [01:28:32] Speaker B: I need coffee. [01:28:34] Speaker A: Yeah, the coffee mugs, that's the ones I want. That's me during the game. Coffee, coffee, coffee. You know, well, I have to get up there, I have to coach, you know, so, you know, that's, I think we all do that. But anyway, take care, guys. Thanks for tuning in, John. We'll catch you. Not next week, the week after. [01:28:59] Speaker B: Cool. [01:29:01] Speaker A: All right. I'll see you, brother. God bless. [01:29:05] Speaker B: Bye.